Kapoun Trial Transcript Vol 2

Contributed by: Michael Cronin (Minnesota Public Radio)

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Archdiocese lawyer: Kapoun wasn't acting as a priest when he took the boys to the cabin

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Kapoun's attorney blames the media for putting priests in a "very unenviable position," says Kapoun "has a black cloud hanging over his head"

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Kapoun's attorney says there's no evidence of the abuse, just the testimony of Kapoun and "the accuser"

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"Why Father Kapoun? Father Kapoun is the polka padre."

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Archbishop Roach says the vicar general "has always played a very rigorous part in the administration of the diocese."

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Archbishop Roach says he doesn't remember the report about Kapoun in 1973

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Roach says he knew Kapoun had emotional problems in the 1970s

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Attorney Jeff Anderson asks Archbishop Roach why he suddenly recalls a conversation he previously said he forgot

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Roach says Polka Padre spent most of his time playing the accordion and made excuses for skipping mass

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Another victim testifies that Kapoun manipulated him after his father died

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Victim recalls how Kapoun would try to touch him while swimming in the lake

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Victim tells his mother about Kapoun's actions

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Victim says he was scared that Kapoun would hurt him again

Victim says he heard nothing from the archdiocese after he reported sexual abuse

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Priest tells Roach of abuse, says Roach said, of abuse allegations against Kapoun, "Well, maybe he did and maybe he didn't"

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Priest says he was confident in Roach's ability to know whether someone was lying about abuse

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Kapoun admits that he was sexually attracted to boys, but says he no longer feels that way

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Kapoun claims he didn't realize that he was harming the boys

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Kapoun says he took a boy to his family cabin "just to have a good time."

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Kapoun says he didn't abuse one boy because he "just didn't have any curiosity" about him

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Kapoun says he dropped a raw egg down a boy's pants

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Kapoun says he exercised with a boy in his underwear

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Attorney to Kapoun: "Did you have a sexual interest in this boy?" Kapoun: "Yes, minimum"

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Kapoun offers vague testimony on his sexual interest in boys

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Kapoun explains why he asked a boy to stay overnight, "It was a curiosity of about his genitals."

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Kapoun claims that a boy touched him in a car, says he didn't ask the boy to do it

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Kapoun says he brought a boy to his parents' home and asked him to get into the shower because of his "curiosity"

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Kapoun again claims that a minor touched his genitals without any prompting

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Kapoun admits to touching a boy

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Kapoun of one victim: "I would say he had more interest in me than I did in him."

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Kapoun admits that he invited a boy to stay with him overnight "probably to see him undressed"

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Kapoun says he didn't have any sexual interest in Dale Scheffler

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Kapoun says the Archdiocese knew that boys tried to lock him out of their bedrooms

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Another man describes how Kapoun tried to sexually abuse him as a child

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Curt Raymond tells Kevin McDonough about the abuse in 1988 or 1989

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Victim recounts being confused by Kapoun's abuse. "I was thinking to myself, is this a sacrament?"

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Kapoun victim watches TV report on clergy sex abuse. "It was like somebody hit me with a baseball bat between the eyes."

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