Stephen DeMaura Interview
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Kim Barker (ProPublica)
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AJS started doing express advocacy in 2010
AJS started doing express advocacy in 2010
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DeMaura describes CPPR role
DeMaura describes CPPR role
DeMaura says his professional contact with Noble has "been fairly limited."
DeMaura says his professional contact with Noble has "been fairly limited."
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DeMaura says his birthday email to Noble was "just being polite."
DeMaura says his birthday email to Noble was "just being polite."
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Plan with Russo starts in January 2012
Plan with Russo starts in January 2012
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"This is something I engage in quite often"
"This is something I engage in quite often"
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Initial fundraising plan was $20 million
Initial fundraising plan was $20 million
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No conversation with Sean Noble yet
No conversation with Sean Noble yet
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Fundraising started slow
Fundraising started slow
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At the end of the day, AJS spends money as "we think makes sense."
At the end of the day, AJS spends money as "we think makes sense."
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Did you talk to maybe Sean Noble?
Did you talk to maybe Sean Noble?
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DeMaura talks to Miller, Carney about problem with issue ads
DeMaura talks to Miller, Carney about problem with issue ads
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Primary risk of doing issue ads close to election was "membership disclosure"
Primary risk of doing issue ads close to election was "membership disclosure"
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DeMaura believes CPPR provides grants to other organizations
DeMaura believes CPPR provides grants to other organizations
DeMaura thought about giving money first to nonprofits--not to CPPR specifically
DeMaura thought about giving money first to nonprofits--not to CPPR specifically
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Russo suggested CPPR. "It's an organization I was familiar with."
Russo suggested CPPR. "It's an organization I was familiar with."
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CPPR is a "well-known conservative group"
CPPR is a "well-known conservative group"
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DeMaura can't recall conversation cited by Miller and Russo, that money went to CPPR in hopes it would go back to CA
DeMaura can't recall conversation cited by Miller and Russo, that money went to CPPR in hopes it would go back to CA
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At some point, DeMaura asks whether CPPR can be trusted
At some point, DeMaura asks whether CPPR can be trusted
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Russo talked to Noble about transfers
Russo talked to Noble about transfers
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DeMaura says the Center to Protect Patient Rights "is a well-known large conservative organization."
DeMaura says the Center to Protect Patient Rights "is a well-known large conservative organization."
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CPPR "made the most sense"
CPPR "made the most sense"
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No conversations with Noble.
No conversations with Noble.
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DeMaura: CPPR is "in my mind the largest conservative group from a financial support."
DeMaura: CPPR is "in my mind the largest conservative group from a financial support."
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DeMaura was surprised at express advocacy
DeMaura was surprised at express advocacy
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Voicemail from Russo to DeMaura on transfer for AFF
Voicemail from Russo to DeMaura on transfer for AFF
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Confusion over whether Russo or Noble suggested AFF
Confusion over whether Russo or Noble suggested AFF
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Initial transfer to AFF raised concerns about further transfers to CPPR
Initial transfer to AFF raised concerns about further transfers to CPPR
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"No strings attached" in transfer to Noble
"No strings attached" in transfer to Noble
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DeMaura says option stayed open to express advocacy in September
DeMaura says option stayed open to express advocacy in September
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Why were donors told as late as mid-October to send $$ to AJS?
Why were donors told as late as mid-October to send $$ to AJS?
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DeMaura didn't know money given to CPPR would be used for express advocacy
DeMaura didn't know money given to CPPR would be used for express advocacy
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DeMaura hasn't talked to Noble
DeMaura hasn't talked to Noble
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AJS did not earmark $11 million
AJS did not earmark $11 million
Corner Table LLC
Corner Table LLC
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